Our body only can produce faculty collagen after injections?

Hypermobility Forum for people with Marfan, EDS: prolotherapy: Our body only can produce faculty collagen after injections?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Davidjazz on Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 12:22 am:

Hi everyone,
My name is David and I come from Taiwan.
I'm going to study jazz performance at Long Island University in August. I have congenital Hypermobility and a big trouble with my eight fingers. I am almost frustrate and wondering if I should major in performance.
Due to my loose ligaments, my first finger joints (count from fingertips) are easily bended and loose. I don't suffer from pain, but it has had a big impact on what i can and can't do on piano.
I'm guessing that I have EDS Type 3, not sure though. Because I live in Taiwan now and no one can give me a diagnosis. I have Hypermobile in my elbows & Dip joints but i don't have other syndrome.
I'm also an EDNF member and people tell me that my ligaments r loose because I'm lacking collagen to hold things together.
Does prolo help to produce collagen to hold things together?
From what I understand,normal collagen is shaped like a ball...ours could be "squished". Then, not only could the collagen be defective itself, it is woven into bands (like a cable)...and the weaving function might also be faulty.
If we have congenital Hypermobile which result from genetic problem and our body only can produce faculty collagen after injections. Could
prolotherapy help?

Thank u,
David

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Greg on Saturday, July 31, 2004 - 08:50 am:

Prolotherapy does end in a net gain in collagen to the areas treated. While the end product may still be "weaker" tissue overall, the new collagen will join with the pre-existing collagen, shortening and tightening. My experience has been extremely successful. A word of caution though: If you are NOT in pain, I believe that you should think twice about having this treatment. This is an invasive treatment, and is very painful at times. I would do everything possible to avoid prolotherapy at this point because it could throw you out of balance. Feel free to ask any questions, and good luck.

Greg

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Rich on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 11:06 am:

Greg,
I am starting prolotherapy again. I have tried the standard dextrose treatment for 11 sessions and no gain in collagen. I realize that I did not get any swelling. Should there be alot of swelling to the area? I have had one prolotherapy treatment to the neck with sodium morruate and had swelling for 4 weeks. The doctor used double the normal amount. I think I will try somewhere in between the standard solution of 1% and 2%. Double was too much.
Have you had any experience with PG2? Ongley only uses this in his 8 week program. I believe the solution and the right location is the key. I am going to get the shots under fluroscopy so I can ensure the appropriate ligaments are treated. The solution is a mystery. There are standard solutions that they use, however, the standard dextrose that was used did not work for me. Any advice would be beneficial. This is my last attempt at prolo.


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