By margret on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 09:57 am:

I am now trying sodium morruate for a severe neck injury since the dextrose did not work. I am worried about overtightning. The first time my doctor tried 1cc and I was fine. The second time he increased it and I have not been able to turn my neck without taking Tylenol. I am going to have him back off. I am hoping the stiffness will go away. Did you ever experience severe stiffness for longer than the usual 3 day period? I have not seen any relief from the sm solution, however, I have only had 2 sets of injections and the first one was just to see if I could tolerate the sm solution. I hope after 4-5 times I will find some relief.

By Greg on Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 04:56 pm:

Margret,

DO NOT WORRY about overtightening!!! There is no such thing. The stronger the ligaments, the better!! Really, I am not joking. Stronger ligaments actually lead to much more strength and much more controlled range of motion and flexibilty. Your ligaments WILL NOT ever become too tight. It is simply physiologically impossible for it to happen.
I have had stiffness and pain for a great many days following prolo treatments, I would not worry about it.
In my opinion, necks can be tough to treat will prolo, depending on where the injury is. Even after more than a year of treatments, there is still this one spot on my neck that still bothers me. If your injury is from C2 and above, then you could probably expect some type of pain and discomfort to persist. If the injury is fully accessible, c2 or below, I would still expect good results. Good luck to you.

Greg

By margret on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 07:50 am:

Greg,
Thanks. Someone mentioned joints can be overtightened. I believe the neck is so difficult to treat because the size and number of ligaments. Generally if you injure your neck you injure the entire neck because it effects 5 levels above and below the injury. My injury is basically the entire neck below C2 and thoracic area. It is hard for me to believe that I will ever see relief. But I will keep trying. Were you able to get rid of the grinding and cracking noises? What type of exercise did you do? I walk about 5 miles 4 times a week. I hope that is enough.

My doctor feels it is not the amount of sm but rather where he places the shot. He said he could try PG2 also but I do not know anyone that has received this solution. I do not know how much sm to use. That is the most confusing part.

The literature makes it sound so simple.

Good luck with everything.

By Greg on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 12:45 pm:

Margret,

Yeah, the neck is very tough in my experience. Most of my cracking did go go away. I still get some occasional cracks though but they are not as troubling. The only cracks that did not change are the ones from C2 and above because those joints could not be reached adequately.
My upper back still cracks like crazy, probably over a hundred times a day despite about 12 strong treatments. Luckily I have a great doctor who is very patient with me. It hurts like hell sometimes, but I do it because it is working. I wish you lots of luck!

Greg

By margret on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 07:32 am:

Greg,
I am finished with Sodium M. I am not able to turn my neck from it. It is too strong for me. I am hoping that it will loosen up with some physical therapy. I only had two sessions. It did not help any of the pain either. I am going to finish my treatment on the lower back and thoracic area with dextrose. After that I that I am just going to either let someone zap the area where the nerve is injured or try botox.

By Greg on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 11:29 am:

Margret,

What exactly is your injury. I am confused here a bit. I would not try botox just yet, as prolotherapy is much better and stronger. Did you doctor tell you that prolo takes at least six weeks to work? Your posts were only one week apart, and that worries me a bit. Please do not give up! In addition, your doctor might not be hitting the right ligaments, or they might not be able to be reached easily. Please tell me more about your case and I bet you I can help in some way. Best wishes to you

By margret on Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 06:59 am:

Greg,
I had whiplash and radiating pain due to ligament instability in both cervical and thoracic area. I cannot hold my neck up for long periods of time, it becomes strained. I could live with that, it is the nerve pain and severe pain from the ligaments or facets that is the most bothersome. The 11 sets of dextrose injections helped me out with the whiplash but did not stabilize anything in the neck. It might have just helped with the muscular pain. I am greatful for at least for that. I was trying the sodium m because people said they were more successful with it, however it seems to glue my neck in place and not unstiffen. I have made no progress on the neck pain or radiating pain with two sets of shots. This would be my 13th set. I am afraid to continue the sodium m because I seem to have lost range of motion. My doctor had to stregth me out. I am still really tight. I think if you are using sm you need be stregthed out once or twice a week. I am still hoping it may be inflammation from the injections since it has only been 8 days since I had the shots. The shots that I get now seem to hurt alot more after the injections than Dr. Hauser's. I thought this might be because they are located in the correct spot or the type of needle. My number at work is (313) 621-2813. I can call you back if you have time.

Thanks again for your support and kindness

By margret on Friday, July 04, 2003 - 01:05 pm:

Greg,
I so scared my neck will not unstiffen from the sodium m. I have never been this scared in my life. I only had two sets of injections.I am taking anti-inflammatories all day. I went to see the doctor and he is sending me to physical therapy. I think something went wrong. I do not know if he even cares what is wrong. I thought is was just regular inflammation but it has been two weeks and it still will not resolve itself.

By margret on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 05:57 am:

Greg,
The inflammation eased up after 15 days. I was totally unprepared for it lasting that long. I can stand it as long as I get better.

Thanks for your continued support.